Got No Job? Come be an RN !

Quote from madwife2002I am fed up with hearing about people seeing nursing as a quick route to money it is so much more and it offends me that nursing is used as a short cut to being employed. We should have stricter entry rules and by this I mean more screening to make sure the nurses coming into the profession actually want to be a nurse for the right reasons and employment not being one of them.

Cut it out already. Enough! Who are you to judge another's motives? What makes you think that even with the income egging them on, that those same people may not later like nursing and become the best at it. Better than even the nurses who potray to be in nursing for simply selfless reasons.Do your best to your employers and your patients, you owe them that much and try to stop griping about other motives and their "motives". This is so played now.

To all the people who feel being an RN is so easy. "I don't know why there is a nursing shortage, why don't they just hire people."

In about two years we are in for some very interesting post here on allnurses. Wait till that batch of graduates and find out what they are in for out there in the nursing job market. They will be back here spiting mad. Maybe management will be in for a shock also, finding themselves with a bunch of employees that won't settle for being treated like pond scum. Maybe there will be some lawsuits against all those people that told the prospective student nurses they would make great money, have great bennies and have job SECURITY. Your security goes right up till the moment when management decides they want to be rid of you.

I think that mostly it's the young kids, that see TV and think that's how life would be for them if they should pursue those careerpaths. Just as many universities as community colleges are getting into the quick cash that these programs bring in. Gullable is gullable, I guess. I do feel sorry for the kid who watches those food network shows and thinks he can just be a chef and own a restaurant, when the line at Dennys is more likely. You can talk to anybody, in any profession and they will have a soapbox story for you about "all I ever wanted to do in life was... and here are all of these people competing for my spot". I have MD friends that hate the students that seemingly no longer pay dues these days. You'll also notice that the areas of medicine that have seen declining earning potential will quickly lose the interest of med students as well (but that has always been).I have begun to get the idea that many people are never cognizant of the world revolving around them. It's good to bring non healthcare people into your lives. You will see, this type of change has been going on for many and for many years.

Quote from oramarIn about two years we are in for some very interesting post here on allnurses. Wait till that batch of graduates and find out what they are in for out there in the nursing job market. They will be back here spiting mad. Maybe management will be in for a shock also, finding themselves with a bunch of employees that won't settle for being treated like pond scum. Maybe there will be some lawsuits against all those people that told the prospective student nurses they would make great money, have great bennies and have job SECURITY. Your security goes right up till the moment when management decides they want to be rid of you.

Quote from oramarIn about two years we are in for some very interesting post here on allnurses. Wait till that batch of graduates and find out what they are in for out there in the nursing job market. They will be back here spiting mad. Maybe management will be in for a shock also, finding themselves with a bunch of employees that won't settle for being treated like pond scum. Maybe there will be some lawsuits against all those people that told the prospective student nurses they would make great money, have great bennies and have job SECURITY. Your security goes right up till the moment when management decides they want to be rid of you.

It's not just RN's it's LPN's and MA's too. I agree, people think it's a fast easy buck from the outside, I do hope the schools weed these people out. However, on the flip side, I can see some displaced auto workers used to strong unions not being treated like pond scum. So who knows there certainly are pluses and minuses.I went to school when nursing was considered a "calling" and you were interviewed and tested psychologically before being admitted to nursing school. Now they look at pre-req grades and test scores.

I have to respectfully disagree. Being employed and making a living for yourself is in and of itself more than a lot of people are willing to do. Someone who decides welfare and public support is not the route they want and see's nursing as a way to make a living shouldn't be chastised for not feeling like they had some "calling from above". Lots of people in every profession are in it simply for the check. They go to work, do what they have to do, make a living and get on with life. I don't understand the constant insistence that nursing should somehow not allow this individual in. People of this nature are vital to nursing's survival. We are packed with the "higher calling" types, and in my experience, they are the ones who burn out, not the one's who just see nursing as a job. The one's who simply see themselves as punching in and out tend to keep their cool while the "higher calling" nurses are getting their panties in a bunch over issues that are none of their business. I see it on my current unit. The "God speaks through me" types get all worked up when staffing and the budget are cut, spend all day in a tissy fit over being told they have to do things differently, and completely lose any pt. focus because they are preoccupied with preaching about how "REAL pt. care is being threatened". Meanwhile, the less emotionally invested ones go about their business as usual and give about the same level of care despite the staffing ratios not being as good.Besides, you can't mandate "caring". If you tried, people would just lie and do things the way the planned to anyway.

To bad. I went into nursing several years ago after getting laid off. I went into it for two reasons and two reasons only: Job Security, and the ability to make the $$$ I wanted. I found a niche that suited me enough and do a good job because I'm professional. The idea that you have to have all this desire to help humanity to be a good nurse is baloney. I talk with other competent, professional nurses at work all the time about how if we could make the same money waiting tables or cutting grass, we'd be gone in an instant.Screen nurses entering the field? Who gets to make the decision on who is good enough and who is not? That sounds like a total corrupt or power-mongerer process. Get over your resentment of all of us who are here for the hours, money, and job security because there is a ton of us and we don't care if you like us or not. I tell buddies laid off from the auto industry every week to go into nursing. Several are looking into it, and if they pursue it they'll be great nurses.

Quote from oramarIn about two years we are in for some very interesting post here on allnurses. Wait till that batch of graduates and find out what they are in for out there in the nursing job market. They will be back here spiting mad. Maybe management will be in for a shock also, finding themselves with a bunch of employees that won't settle for being treated like pond scum. Maybe there will be some lawsuits against all those people that told the prospective student nurses they would make great money, have great bennies and have job SECURITY. Your security goes right up till the moment when management decides they want to be rid of you.

Quote from UNCpsycGuy I don't know about you but 2+ years minimum is a good amount of time and sweat to put into some 'quick money'. On top of that, once in the programs the drop rates are astronomical. One RN I was working with the other night stated that they started out with 70 and ended up with something like 13 people! That is 81% of the class that did not graduate and will have to find another way to get that 'quick money'. For people like me that already have a Bachelors, it is still taking me a year of pre-req's