Verbal Written warnings and Termination

If you have a manager after you , like they say, "I'm gonna get you..." like the boogie man, run, run, lsebeg:!!!! Love yourself enough to get the heck out. In an 'at will' to work state, which is probably most states, you won't have a leg to stand on. There is no law against wrongful termination. Bullies and their enablers will make you . Save your self respect and get out.I realize there are some things we could do wrong to get written up but when you really find it's over ridiculous nothings and it's over and over and you're in a new area, you are in a witch hunt, my friend, just get out! Transfer to a new dept. to keep your benefits, seniority, face, etc., etc. It's not worth your health. :redpinkhe

The "paper trail" has no value, unless the fired employee chooses to sue their employer, and even then it doesn't help. Many states adopted "at will" laws to avoid lawsuits over frivolous issues.Now, because of the many errors and intentional harm evidenced in our profession, that has proven its worth. It's a "no lose" situation for employers, who gleefully tell their employees that they can quit "at will", too. Employment law protects employee who were victimized, from vengeful managers who are forbidden to relate employees failings, to potential future employers. They cannot reach your supervisor, as Human Resources is very cautious about revealing only dates of employment, when asked for a reference. However, hospital scuttlebutt being what it is, a particularly nasty manager could fill the ears of another manager with malevolent misinformation about you, at the facility where you might want to transfer.You have recourse at that facility, to bring the matter before those above your manager, through Human Resources, and to the union, if you have one. If your nurse manager has persecuted anyone often, you have a chance in the "her/him or me" battle. Good luck with that.

Quote from wondernIf you have a manager after you , like they say, "I'm gonna get you..." like the boogie man, run, run, lsebeg:!!!! Love yourself enough to get the heck out. In an 'at will' to work state, which is probably most states, you won't have a leg to stand on. There is no law against wrongful termination. Bullies and their enablers will make you . Save your self respect and get out.

Quote from lamazeteacherThe "paper trail" has no value, unless the fired employee chooses to sue their employer, and even then it doesn't help. Many states adopted "at will" laws to avoid lawsuits over frivolous issues.Now, because of the many errors and intentional harm evidenced in our profession, that has proven its worth. It's a "no lose" situation for employers, who gleefully tell their employees that they can quit "at will", too. Employment law protects employee who were victimized, from vengeful managers who are forbidden to relate employees failings, to potential future employers. They cannot reach your supervisor, as Human Resources is very cautious about revealing only dates of employment, when asked for a reference. However, hospital scuttlebutt being what it is, a particularly nasty manager could fill the ears of another manager with malevolent misinformation about you, at the facility where you might want to transfer.You have recourse at that facility, to bring the matter before those above your manager, through Human Resources, and to the union, if you have one. If your nurse manager has persecuted anyone often, you have a chance in the "her/him or me" battle. Good luck with that.

We have learnt on our floor you talk to nobody not even those you think you can trust because it all gets back to the one you had hoped wouldnt get to hear about it.Some hospitals really do not want to hear about problems and you have to have a new way to look at things and a new approach something like'it is all good' Negativity even justified is not acceptable any more. Managers are using the financial crisis to make nurses fear for their jobs, I honestly believe they are using it to their advantage.I feel for the nurses and hospital workers who are being 'bullied' at this time by unscrupilous bosses, with no morales and will use anything to get their way.

I took a job at St Joseph's In Bellingham WAshington on MCU under *****.. I and been away from the bedside for three years and had been working in the clinic setting . I have been a nurse since 1976 and know alot.I was two weeks into my orinetation when I was told I was"not a good fit"In my time there I was approached by one nurse who told me to "watch out" Another nurse told me that the President was a terrorist and made racial statements. The person I was orienting under was a good technician but not a good nurse. She was dictatorial and task orientented.SO I say to you if You want to take a job on MCU in Bellingham WAashington, "watch out"

Sounds like a threat ...:trout:What a horrible environment to work in. I bet you're grateful to get out of there quickly in one way. :urgycld:Good luck on your search, mendoza70. You'll find some place where you and your skills will be appreciated.

Actually Older nurses are discriminated against.. no one wants to pay the higher wages nor take on the burden of extra health care.Thank you for your support . I means lot

I am so sorry that older nurses are discriminated agianst. i am a young nurse and i look up to veteran nurses with tons of life/work experience. you can only learn from them.

Quote from pennyalineYou are mistaken. In at will states, wrongful termination still exists and employers can be prosecuted for it. "Bullies and their enablers," if creating a hostile work environment, are breaking labor laws... YES, even in at will states!.

Quote from mendoza70Actually Older nurses are discriminated against.. no one wants to pay the higher wages nor take on the burden of extra health care.Thank you for your support . I means lot

it is heartening to hear so mcuh support and disheartening to see so many good nurses fall into this cat and mouse game. How did our profession get so cutthroat? JCHAO did not help that is for sure..