abuse or just a mistake

I have knowledge of a scrub nurse who feels it is perfectly fine to put in foleys while patients are in restraints but before they are anesthetized (conscious sedation). The amnesia has been hiding her deeds. But recently a patient remembered and has ptsd because of it. Of course everyone is denying it and the hospital won't say anything since the patient is screaming abuse. Any recommendations.
Confused??1. Why is the patient restrained to begin with?2. Why can't the nurse explain the need for a foley and obtain consent prior to inserting?I just may not understand you speciality and the protocols.

Is the alleged abuse that she did it while they were restrained? They must have given consent for a Foley, since they knew they would need one during surgery. Plenty of people get catheters without anesthesia and its not abuse--I guess I dont understand.

I'm a bit confused, too. We put foleys in all the time with patients who are awake and have had no type of sedation or analgesia. However, this is after a thorough explanation and consent from the patient. But, like the previous poster said, maybe its just your specialty and that you do things differently than we do on the floors.

"I have knowledge of"Did you see this yourself?What is the hospital policy regarding this?

This doesn't make any sense.

I'm not sure how it is abuse or a mistake unless you are talking about putting restraints on a person to insert a foley rather than waiting for them to be anesthetized. I put foleys in patients regularly and being in restraints has zero bearing on their need for a foley. When placing a foley in a patient who is restrained I certainly don't take them out of restraints to do it!If you are talking about alert and oriented patients who need a foley for surgery, why would you need restraints or need to wait for them to be sedated? I can see why you might wait for them to be sedated but doing it without sedation is hardly abuse provided you have consent! And if they didn't consent, why on earth would you put it in anyway?

OP - we need clarification.

Quote from HappyNurse2005Plenty of people get catheters without anesthesia and its not abuse--I guess I dont understand.

The post does not make sense.If the patient is about to undergo anesthesia the foley can wait until the patient is put to sleep. Why is this patient in restraints?

I agree that further clarification must take place before an informative discussion can ensue.

Quote from nassirI have knowledge of a scrub nurse who feels it is perfectly fine to put in foleys while patients are in restraints but before they are anesthetized (conscious sedation). The amnesia has been hiding her deeds. But recently a patient remembered and has ptsd because of it. Of course everyone is denying it and the hospital won't say anything since the patient is screaming abuse. Any recommendations.

I could obviously be wrong, but OP sounds a bit like a med-mal attorney on a fishing expedition.