We will NEVER treat any patient better....

10 than we treat each other.

We will NEVER treat our patients BETTER than we treat each other.

Likewise, we will NEVER be able to treat our patients better than management treats us.

Just something to think about.

And how have you been treated this week - by management? by other nurses? by administration? by support staff?

Imagine the payoff for a hospital that is staffed well, has a zero tolerance for bad behaviors and bullying (peer, MD's, management, vendors, visitors), rewards clinical excellence and good kind care (instead of punishing for every pillow not fluffed and a$$ not kissed) and empowers everyone from grounds staff to the CEO to create solutions and work for a common goal (which we kinda have anyway --- patients anyone?).

Anyone have any thoughts to share???

Where are the bluebird and lollipops smilies?


Well, I went to work today and snapped at the doctor I work with (I was really tired, I actually love the doc I work with). He just told me to go back to bed. Otherwise I was treated well by several doctors, my patients, my coworkers, and my boss. I am living the dream.

Unfortunately, I agree with you it is too dangerous these days to just stop. It would have been completely different if it was an obvious accident that needed a responder until EMS could arrive.

You had me... and then I woke up... but it was the best dream I'd had in awhile.

Quote from Mom To 4Unfortunately, I agree with you it is too dangerous these days to just stop. It would have been completely different if it was an obvious accident that needed a responder until EMS could arrive.

[quote=NREMT-P/RN;5353029]than we treat each other.We will NEVER treat our patients BETTER than we treat each other.Likewise, we will NEVER be able to treat our patients better than management treats us.Just something to think about. And how have you been treated this week - by management? by other nurses? by administration? by support staff?Imagine the payoff for a hospital that is staffed well, has a zero tolerance for bad behaviors and bullying (peer, MD's, management, vendors, visitors), rewards clinical excellence and good kind care (instead of punishing for every pillow not fluffed and a$$ not kissed) and empowers everyone from grounds staff to the CEO to create solutions and work for a common goal (which we kinda have anyway --- patients anyone?). Honey, that costs MONEY; and you KNOW how TPTB feel about ANYTHING that might bite into the shareholders returns.There is no such thing as the long view in todays corporate climate. It is NEVER better to take a hit today for rewards tomorrow.That is why there are 37 pt.s in my ER waiting for a bed; when there is a 32 bed unit that has been closed for 2 months; because the PTB decided they could SOMEHOW squeeze out these savings without damage. The staff is now house float, to pick up the slack in other units with Dl's etc.Meanwhile, lots of pt.s and families are NOT happy with the long wait times in ER. How does THAT affect Press-Gainey scores? Somehow, it will ALL be the nurses fault.I don't see how they can reopen that unit, most of the core staff is SO sick of this manipulation they have applied for jobs elsewhere. A hardcore, dedicated team was lost because of profit concerns.Come the high months, I have NO idea what they think will happen to magically staff that unit. No new grad will willingly work there, they KNOW how tough it is.Corporate BS at it's best, but dontcha know we had the usual "JCAHO is coming and it's YOUR fault if we fail" seminar last week.And they wonder why nurses don't seem so "dedicated" anymore. Maybe they are just tired of being thrown under the bus.

I think making health care a business with an aim to profit means that you are never going to reach any goals except financial ones. Health care and money making should never be in the same sentance. The issue of money means that hospitals are never going to be well staffed, and staff are never going to be free to spend quality time ensuring the patients are well cared for without worry about "a$$kissing".Just my 2cents worth from a country that has free health care for all. (And no, our system is NOT perfect, but I do know that if I or my family ever need for health care, financial issues are never going to impact on the care they recieve).

Quote from NREMT-P/RNWe will NEVER treat our patients BETTER than we treat each other.Likewise, we will NEVER be able to treat our patients better than management treats us.

[quote=steelydanfan;5353235]Quote from NREMT-P/RNthan we treat each other.We will NEVER treat our patients BETTER than we treat each other.Likewise, we will NEVER be able to treat our patients better than management treats us.Just something to think about. And how have you been treated this week - by management? by other nurses? by administration? by support staff?Imagine the payoff for a hospital that is staffed well, has a zero tolerance for bad behaviors and bullying (peer, MD's, management, vendors, visitors), rewards clinical excellence and good kind care (instead of punishing for every pillow not fluffed and a$$ not kissed) and empowers everyone from grounds staff to the CEO to create solutions and work for a common goal (which we kinda have anyway --- patients anyone?). Honey, that costs MONEY; and you KNOW how TPTB feel about ANYTHING that might bite into the shareholders returns.There is no such thing as the long view in todays corporate climate. It is NEVER better to take a hit today for rewards tomorrow.That is why there are 37 pt.s in my ER waiting for a bed; when there is a 32 bed unit that has been closed for 2 months; because the PTB decided they could SOMEHOW squeeze out these savings without damage. The staff is now house float, to pick up the slack in other units with Dl's etc.Meanwhile, lots of pt.s and families are NOT happy with the long wait times in ER. How does THAT affect Press-Gainey scores? Somehow, it will ALL be the nurses fault.I don't see how they can reopen that unit, most of the core staff is SO sick of this manipulation they have applied for jobs elsewhere. A hardcore, dedicated team was lost because of profit concerns.Come the high months, I have NO idea what they think will happen to magically staff that unit. No new grad will willingly work there, they KNOW how tough it is.Corporate BS at it's best, but dontcha know we had the usual "JCAHO is coming and it's YOUR fault if we fail" seminar last week.And they wonder why nurses don't seem so "dedicated" anymore. Maybe they are just tired of being thrown under the bus.

Quote from Hygiene QueenLOL!The way that was worded reminded me of The Brady Bunch Movie wherein Mike would go on one of his long-winded, philsophical, but painfully earnest spiels.Cracked me up.I can't embed it, but check out "Brady Bunch Movie Mike Brady" on youtube.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LYO1LMVmO4

ScottE... I'm jealous of your embedding capabilities... I should have figured you could help me out.Cheers!

Quote from Hygiene QueenScottE... I'm jealous of your embedding capabilities... I should have figured you could help me out.Cheers!

I love my job. I work for Interim in Wichita KS. I am not a nurse with them, I work in the payroll dpet checking in notes and I take care of the com care stuff. I have the most amazing job, my coworkers (mostly nurses) are amazing, my bosses are dream employers and the whole company is wonderful. I couldnt ask for better people, pay or the job its self. I really do feel so blessed to be working at Interim and its the foot in the door place I wanted. For now I work in the office but in a few years after I get my bsn Ill be working in the field and hopefully Ill be in the office on the nursing side. It all depends on where you work and what you do and who you work with. I got really really lucky getting my job and Im thankful for it each and every day. And as far as comming into the ED expecting miracles. LOL I dont think people expect miracles there! I do think that they expect quick treatment (though 20 mins would make many pt happy, generally er visits come with a 3-6 hour wait just to get a room then another 1-3 hour wait to be seen in my area. A trip to the ER generally takes 3-8 hours when the er). So I dont think its an impatients of a waite I dont know anyone who would waite that long for any other services. But I do believe that many people who go to the ER don't actually have emergancies. Sure on holidays when you have things like high fevers in children or posion ivey an ER trip is understanable but when you get people comming in with sinus infections and strep throat that is the problem. Its an emergancy room and its supposed to be for emergancies only. I think that's more of the issue then patients not wanting to wait to be seen.