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What to expect in patient's "Progress Notes"?Rating: (votes: 0) Thank you! ![]() Highly suggest you read progress notes -- they'll contain brief H&Ps, and A/P -- assessment/plan. If you are caring for the patient, their entire chart (paper or electronic) is available to you -- be sure to utilize it! Comment:
There have been times where I have read a physician's progress notes and something is mentioned in the plan but the order was never written. It is definitely a good idea to read the progress notes.
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All involved with the pt write in the progress notes except nurses, we have a separate location for notes. If the pt has consults, social worker, discharge planning, hospice etc their plan/recommendations will usually be written in the progress notes. As mentioned above, please read them. It will give you an idea of what the MD's are thinking, where they are heading and prognosis. Some are really good at writing while others give little to no information.
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Progress notes should be integrated with all disciplines participating on the same pages, so the reader can follow the patient's, ummm, progress chronologically and all disciplines can follow the care given and rationales (evals, exam findings, response to treatments) by all other disciplines. If your facility still follows the archaic "nurses notes in the back, doctors notes in the front" formula, advocate for integration.Think of your notes as communication devices in that way-- help everyone out.
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Dear GrnTea - Normally I agree with you, but on this issue I differ. I've worked LTC places that DID integrate all the notes into an INTERDISCIPLINARY Note at one time. But they all reverted. Why??? All the disciplines worried about all the big gaps left on the page by the MDs who continued to write in their big scrawly loopy handwriting. And the MDs liked their own section - they didn't care to sift thru the notes to find their own LAST entry to continue.And my personal pet peeve - there was NO courtesy by most to put new pages as nec into the chart. So rude!Of course, I'm talking about paper & pen type charting. I'm sure electronic charting has probably remedied these problems.
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I usually glance at the progress note at shift start because it helps me to plan my care for the shift. If it is written to increase ambulation, I'll try to get the patient up to walk a bit. It's also easier to answer questions regarding what's going on when I read the progress note.~ No One Can Make You Feel Inferior Without Your Consent -Eleanor Roosevelt ~
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Basically they will give you an idea of what the doctors are planning for this patients care. Ours will actually have "impression" and "plan for treatment" charted in the progress notes. It's always a good idea to see if the orders you have in front of you match up with the plans for treatment.
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Quote from amoLuciaDear GrnTea - Normally I agree with you, but on this issue I differ. I've worked LTC places that DID integrate all the notes into an INTERDISCIPLINARY Note at one time. But they all reverted. Why??? All the disciplines worried about all the big gaps left on the page by the MDs who continued to write in their big scrawly loopy handwriting. And the MDs liked their own section - they didn't care to sift thru the notes to find their own LAST entry to continue.And my personal pet peeve - there was NO courtesy by most to put new pages as nec into the chart. So rude!Of course, I'm talking about paper & pen type charting. I'm sure electronic charting has probably remedied these problems.
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Quote from Sun0408All involved with the pt write in the progress notes except nurses, we have a separate location for notes. If the pt has consults, social worker, discharge planning, hospice etc their plan/recommendations will usually be written in the progress notes. As mentioned above, please read them. It will give you an idea of what the MD's are thinking, where they are heading and prognosis. Some are really good at writing while others give little to no information.
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I agree with all the previous posters. Also some MDs break down "problems" that the pt came in with or developed and they list assessment findings related to that as well as their plan. Since most MDs won't call and let you know about what they are wanting to do with the pt, you should be reading them to feta general idea of what's going on. Eventually you will start to see trends with different diagnoses and how they are treated. With that, you can be able to anticipate new orders related to that diagnosis and be able to answer Pts questions about the typical plan of care for that diagnosis.
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