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Health Care and Contraception: Did the Supreme Court Get It Right?Rating: (votes: 0) I'm curious how you nurses feel about this? Please take a second to vote in our quick poll. This is a highly political topic, I'd rather not turn this into a hot argumentative subject, so please keep your comments civil ![]() Here is an article on the topic: Hobby Lobby Ruling Cuts Into Contraceptive Mandate ![]() In a 5-4 decision Monday, the Supreme Court allowed a key exemption to the health law's contraception coverage requirements when it ruled that closely held for-profit businesses could assert a religious objection to the Obama administration's regulations. What does it mean? Here are some questions and answers about the case.What did the court's ruling do?Last edit by brian on Jul 1, '14 I agree with the Supreme Court's ruling in spirit. I am not religious and I am pro-contraception, but I generally agree that a family-owned companies should be able to conduct their businesses in a manner congruent with their beliefs. The application of this ruling, however, is potentially disastrous for women. What if more large companies start claiming they are family-owned businesses in order to save money on healthcare services for women? Women are then left in the dust. The bigger issue underlying all of this nonsense is this: Why do Americans have to be deeply reliant on an employer for healthcare coverage? Comment:
What's next? There are people out there who sincerely believe that the Bible forbids the mixing of the races. Should they, as business owners, be exempted from Equal Opportunity laws because of that? There are people who have sincere religious views about the role of women in the family and society. Should they be entitled to refuse to hire women, or pay them significantly less than male employees for the same job because of their personal religious views? Once we've started down this road, where does it end??
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This ruling could be a disaster for anyone who works for a business owned by a Jehovah's Witness or Christian Scientist. It's also another great example of why health insurance should not be tied to employment.
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Would the ruling be the same if, say, an Islamic-owned company made the same claim? An Hmong company claiming cultural restrictions? Have you all followed the articles regarding how Hobby Lobby has conducted itself in the past? Purchasing most if not all of its merchandise dirt cheap from China, where forced abortions and infanticide are rampant?Investing in companies that manufacture the very abortion drugs that they are objecting to?I think this is a disastrous ruling that will open the floodgates for businesses to opt out of providing healthcare coverage for anything they darn well please by claiming a religious objection. A Jehovah's Witness-owned company could refuse to cover blood transfusions because it's against their tenets. A Jewish company could decline to cover organ transplants because they believe that the body should be whole when it is interred.The list is endless.
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If they pay for Viagra they should pay for birth control. When getting an erection is more important than a woman right for choice about her body...we are in trouble.This is going to have a trickle effect. It sets a dangerous precedence. Just and gay rights for equality and marriage and FINALLY won in the supreme court...they can still be denied thier rights becasue they are same sex? Once again I just sit here and shake my head.
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Quote from CuddleswithpuddlesI agree with the Supreme Court's ruling in spirit. I am not religious and I am pro-contraception, but I generally agree that a family-owned companies should be able to conduct their businesses in a manner congruent with their beliefs. The application of this ruling, however, is potentially disastrous for women. What if more large companies start claiming they are family-owned businesses in order to save money on healthcare services for women? Women are then left in the dust. The bigger issue underlying all of this nonsense is this: Why do Americans have to be deeply reliant on an employer for healthcare coverage?
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I can't choose either answer to your poll as neither one fits. This decision doesn't mean women will not have access to birth control. Hobby Lobby only had issues with four of the 20 contraceptive methods approved by the FDA, specifically those that are proven to interfere with uterine implantation of a fertilized egg, such as hormonal contraceptives like Plan B or IUD's. Because of the belief that a fertilized egg is the act of conception and therefore stopping the egg from implanting into the uterus causes the death of that embryo, a human being dies. Viagra is not the same thing as this at all. An erection and a fertilized egg are simply not the same.People can certainly disagree about when human life begins. However, in order to understand why people think the way they think, understanding where they come from helps us all. The ACA (Obamacare) doesn't guarantee that health plans cover it - Obamacare would never have passed with such a guarantee. And this is based on the Religious Freedom Restoration Act passed overwhelmingly by both houses of Congress and signed by Prez. Clinton: The high court's decision in the Hobby Lobby case refocused attention on the Religious Freedom Restoration Act that passed Congress overwhelmingly in 1993, with the support of some lawmakers still serving in both the House and Senate. The statute requires federal laws to accommodate individuals' religious beliefs unless there is a compelling interest at stake that can't be attained through other means.
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Quote from roser13Would the ruling be the same if, say, an Islamic-owned company made the same claim? An Hmong company claiming cultural restrictions? Have you all followed the articles regarding how Hobby Lobby has conducted itself in the past? Purchasing most if not all of its merchandise dirt cheap from China, where forced abortions and infanticide are rampant?Investing in companies that manufacture the very abortion drugs that they are objecting to?I think this is a disastrous ruling that will open the floodgates for businesses to opt out of providing healthcare coverage for anything they darn well please by claiming a religious objection. A Jehovah's Witness-owned company could refuse to cover blood transfusions because it's against their tenets. A Jewish company could decline to cover organ transplants because they believe that the body should be whole when it is interred.The list is endless.
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Quote from akulahawkRNNot all companies... just closely-held privately owned ones that provide healthcare coverage. The potential, however, is obvious. This ruling could very well begin the dismantling of the ACA.
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Take a look at the history of the Religious Freedom Restoration Act (not a fan of Wikipedia but can't find a link with a respectable journal where you don't have to pay for access). Make sure to read how it started. Interesting. Religious Freedom Restoration Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Religion and religious beliefs have always been respected in many arenas worldwide.And for that I'm grateful. I agree with the ruling.
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Supreme Court judges should all be atheists. Only fair way to judge separation of church and state.
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