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Perhaps it is the sections that I tend to look at (LPN, Private Duty, HomeCare), but I seem to be reading alot about there being no jobs for new nurses, that the new jobs you can get are pretty ucky and there is a general malaise in the professional. But don't worry, new nurses only last about 8 years.

Huh?

What nursing school did you go to? Mine told me that there was a nursing shortage, and that I was embarking upon a career that would make me feel like Florence Nightingale. And I would be forced to hire a financial manager because I was going to make fantastic money.

Well I am still waiting for my lemons to taste like lemonade but I don't get what all the belly aching is about. I suspect I am a bit older than some but I have a hint. Your country needs you, and it is probably the best nursing experience out there you will ever build your career on. I am NOT talking about the VA system, although that is getting better, but I am talking about doing a few years in uniform.

I wasn't a nurse when I was in boots (105 mm gun bunny) but I wish I was. My instructor was a army nurse and her command presence reflected it.

If you have talked to someone about what military nursing offers new grads, please share it. I suspect you do not need to be a GI Jane to enlist but what are they looking for?

Oh, and why isn't there some PSA's on this website that point visitors to a site offering more information about this career option?
i second that, there's a huge nursing shortage and its only getting worse. Remember as the baby boomers retire a whole lot of them will finally get health insurance through Medicare where historically they haven't had health insurance. So you're looking at an increase in the number of patients and you'll need more nurses to take care of them

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Quote from invernessfli second that, there's a huge nursing shortage and its only getting worse. Remember as the baby boomers retire a whole lot of them will finally get health insurance through Medicare where historically they haven't had health insurance. So you're looking at an increase in the number of patients and you'll need more nurses to take care of them

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Quote from OldMareLPNPerhaps it is the sections that I tend to look at (LPN, Private Duty, HomeCare), but I seem to be reading alot about there being no jobs for new nurses, that the new jobs you can get are pretty ucky and there is a general malaise in the professional. But don't worry, new nurses only last about 8 years.(I'm confused,please care to explain how this relates to the rest of your post?)Huh?What nursing school did you go to? Mine told me that there was a nursing shortage, and that I was embarking upon a career that would make me feel like Florence Nightingale. And I would be forced to hire a financial manager because I was going to make fantastic money.Surprise,there is no shortage,not at this time.Well I am still waiting for my lemons to taste like lemonade but I don't get what all the belly aching is about. I suspect I am a bit older than some but I have a hint. Your country needs you, and it is probably the best nursing experience out there you will ever build your career on. I am NOT talking about the VA system, although that is getting better, but I am talking about doing a few years in uniform.How do you know if they haven't tried the military route?I wasn't a nurse when I was in boots (105 mm gun bunny) but I wish I was. My instructor was a army nurse and her command presence reflected it.If you have talked to someone about what military nursing offers new grads, please share it. I suspect you do not need to be a GI Jane to enlist but what are they looking for?Oh, and why isn't there some PSA's on this website that point visitors to a site offering more information about this career option?

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i think there is a limited nursing shortage...the ads i see are frequently for experienced icu, ccu, nicu, er, and or nurses. i don't have experience in any of those areas. many of the other ads i see require one year of current experience. most of those jobs are part time (which i would definitely take at this point) and prn (i need to be able to support myself and assist my son until he is done with school). my experience is not current, but i have taken the local refresher course.i believe the cut off age to join the military is 44. i do have a general application in for a civilian nurse position at the local base and clinic...they do not have any posted jobs that i would be qualified for on usajobs.when i got out of nursing school there indeed was a nursing shortage (the 80's); honestly, you just picked the hospital you wanted and if all your ducks were in a row, you were hired. all of the larger hospitals near me had extensive "new grad" programs; that's not happening now. i can tell you, because i have been trying to get a job for more than a year. one am last week, i received seven rejection emails...not how i want to start my day.

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Perhaps I am misreading or misunderstanding the point of this post, but as part of the group that you are targeting this post at I'm feeling very defensive right now, as I interpret your tone as both abrasive and confrontational. Are you trying to say that we new grads are collectively 'making up' the employment freeze out? Are you saying that we have no right to vent unless we have looked at all theoretically possible options? Sure I have a BSN and would meet the physical and age requirements of the military, but I also have a toddler and a securely employed husband. Theoretically, the armed services are an option for me to look into, but am I supposed to leave my family?I've submitted approx 200 aps (I stopped keeping exact count long ago) and finally am going on my first interview later this month. Things were different just a few short years ago for new grads, and I sincerely hope that they will be different again very soon. In the meantime, if I don't vent about the experience that I'm going through, bad things will happen to my soul.

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My school had so called "recruiters" come and speak to our graduating class and among them was somone from the military and as they all went around saying that yes their various companies do hire new grads, so we asked them do you hire ADN nurses becuse we were a ADN program then all the recruiters started to backpedal. The military recruiter said that they only take BSN or higher in education and that they have met their quota for this year unless you know a BSN with 5 years ICU experince. Why was he even there talking to a graduating class of ADN nurses I will never know.The only "recruiter" that said yes we hire new grad ADN nurses is the LTC, everyone else stated that they would perfer a BSN, or if we went through an internship program, but non of the facilites that they were representing were planning to have any internships coming up.Sad, when these are "recruiters" for the areathen of course everyone that I run into, always asks the same questions, arent you about ready to graduate? ...yes...oh so you have a job already lined up, because there is a nursing shortage...........

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Thanks for the nice post. I respect your frustraions, but it is hard for new grads to join the military due to many not having their BSN's and not having experience. I think a lot of new grads need to look at LTC facilities, and look into relocating these days. One has to be flexible to be competetive. I graduated last month, and take my NCLEX in 2 weeks, and I do have a job as an RN lined up 70 miles from where I stay as I am willing to be flexible. Also, Army will always need nurses in the near future.

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hopefully this shortage will be short lived

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While I sort of agree with the OP's sentiments, the military isn't really the refuse bin for nurses who can't make it anywhere else. They have a very competitive application process, as well as strict physical and mental health requirements (kidney stones? can't join. flat feet? can't join. history of treatment for mental illness? good luck.). I am excited about joining the Air Force - it'll be both an honor to serve, and a reward for sticking out the year-long application process. I've still got some waiting to do, but I'm confident it's the right career move, even though I haven't ever had trouble finding a great nursing job.

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Does anyone know why you have to be physically fit(I guess code for skinny" to join as a nurse? Are the nurses on the battlefield itself? Accorfing to my sister,whe said they had large nurses in the army and that it wouldn't matter because you aren't on the battlefield,so I don't know but would like to find out.

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Quote from smartnurse1982does anyone know why you have to be physically fit(i guess code for skinny" to join as a nurse? are the nurses on the battlefield itself? accorfing to my sister,whe said they had large nurses in the army and that it wouldn't matter because you aren't on the battlefield,so i don't know but would like to find out.

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Well, I don't have knowledge about military nursing but here is my outlook about why there are no jobs (especially new grad jobs).I am an LPN with no nursing experience, and have been looking six months for a job. I currently work in human services and several years ago when I began working here we received medication administration training in our initial 2 weeks training. Soon many applicants were coming to work here to get the med training and then moving on to other jobs. Now our company does not med train until after an employee has worked for the company 6 months.When I was in nursing school our local large hospitals hired new grad LPN and RN's and provided excellent training. Then we were told that hospitals were trying to obtain magnet status and they were no longer highering LPN's and the number of new grad RN positions dwindled too.I would think the large hospitals would have a larger budget for training than the smaller assisted living facilities or agencies. However as the large hospitals stopped training as many new grads the training had to be shifted elsewhere.In my area it appears now some assisted living facilities have decided they don't want to do the training and have the nurses they trained leave for another job. I called an assisted living that was in a bad area of town thinking maybe they don't get as many nurses apply there and maybe they could not be choosy and might take a new nurse. The DON said she could not hire new grads but go get a year experience and come back and she would hire me. I asked her where a new grad is to get experience. She stated a list of 4 rehabs and 2 nursing homes to call and she seemed to think if I applied to them I would have a job within a week. She said she had another new grad call her that same day and she had told that new grad the same thing. I tried to apply to her list but most of them did not want new grads either. One stated they would possibly consider a new grad but did not currently have any positions open.I read on allnurses that RN's are going to LTC when they can't get on at hospitals. One LTC stated on the phone that they hire new grad LPN's. I applied had an interview and in the interview was told that the position did not actually require an LPN it could just be a med tech and that if I took the job and worked there a year they did not feel that would count towards those other jobs who are requiring 1 yr. nursing experience.So the problem I see is most places don't want a huge training budget and have only a few or no new grad positions. And new RN's are having to settle for jobs that used to be LPN positions. And LPN's are having to take med tech, CNA or even volunteer work just to get their foot in the door in hopes they might land a job.If the military has any openings and is an option for some then I wish them all the best. Best of luck to all of us looking for a job.
Author: alice  3-06-2015, 16:31   Views: 1571   
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