New Nurses Precepting Students/New Hires?

So the other day at work one of my co-workers (2 years out of school) was teamed with a nursing student. Now this particular nurse is still somewhat shaky about his skills- good nurse but not super confident (although he's one of managements favorites sooo you know how that goes)

I ask him how's it going having a student and he says it's ok (just alittle overwhelmed).

Why would you put a nurse with less than 3 years experience to precept?

Like really?

I feel confident in my abilities, but with just 15 months experience I will say HECK NO! to precepting. I think I know alot, but there's way more I don't know and I have no right teaching anyone else at this stage!

Anyway he is management's love puppy (well atleast one mangers') so I guess someone is trying to make him look good.
I think it's s set up for failure. Well.....this is what happens when the lay off all the seasoned nurses because we cost too much to keep. AND you answered it yourself....they're the managers pet.

I work with some new nurses (with 2 yrs experience) that can run circles around some of the veteran nurses on my unit. I see nothing wrong with a competent newer nurse precepting.

I was precepted by a nurse who had one year experience when I was still in nursing school. Learned a lot from her. Then I was precepted by a nurse who had 18 months experience when I got to my first nursing job. Learned a lot from him too. The way my floor is, unfortunately there just aren't that many nurses with more than 3 years experience. It's a jumping ground for most and not many people stay around very long after they get their year or two in, they are moving on to greener pastures.

What previous posters said. In your instance, if he's shaky in his skills, he shouldn't be precepting. But, really depends on the individual nurse. You could have a nurse that's been one for 10 years not be as capable as one that's been one for 5. Just individual abilities. Not all nurses are created equal after all just as in any profession. Some people are just better at their jobs than others. I think a nurse that's been one for 2 years could precept if they're confident and have the knowledge/abilities to back it up.

Quote from NoviceRN10I work with some new nurses (with 2 yrs experience) that can run circles around some of the veteran nurses on my unit. I see nothing wrong with a competent newer nurse precepting.

My supervisor says that multiple studies have shown that nurse preceptors with less than 2 years experience get some of the best "scores", quite possibly linked to the fact that they are young and fresh, not yet jaded, excited about the opportunity to finally teach, and sympathetic to the feelings of a new or student nurse. You don't have to be the taught by the best, you have to be taught by people who enjoy teaching. There is plenty of time to get support and help on the floor from more experienced nurses once you're out there. In fact, when I was learning, I remembered being so overwhelmed that half the stuff that went in my ear went out my other, so perhaps the best words of wisdom by the oldies is better kept for when one has gotten their feet a bit wet and are able to let it sink in and take hold

I agree, the preceptor needs to WANT to teach. If the oldie can't be nice then they shouldn't teach.

You think that's nuts. I know of a few nurses who were forced to take students as NG nurses in the middle of orientation at the hospitals they work at. Also, I know a few nurses who were oriented part of the time by nurses with under 6 mo. experience on the floor as new nurses themselves.

If your friend has two years experience, then he should at least have a basic level of competence. In some workplaces, it is not unusual to have a whole shift of nurses with less than 5 years of experience.When I worked full time, being given a student to shadow you was the beginning step in taking on the teaching role. You would be given a student, in preparation for precepting new nurses.Taking on a leadership role as you gained experience was a basic expectation, not any great honor, but more like jury duty. If you work, eventually you precept and get to be charge nurse sometimes.Is two years too soon? I don't know your workplace dynamics, but often newer nurses get drafted into these roles when there are only a few experienced nurses who are overburdened and burning out fast.

Quote from yelnikmcwawa...You don't have to be the taught by the best, you have to be taught by people who enjoy teaching...

A nurse with a year or two of experience who is appropriately knowledgeable and skilled (for that level of experience) is totally qualified to precept a student. Whether or not (s)he is prepared to precept another nurse may require more detailed consideration.The most important traits in a preceptor are knowledge, patience, humility, and ability to teach.

You were right, he is precepting so that his 'friend' manager buddies can put a gold star in his file. He will be evaluated as having excelled no matter how he performs in this role. It was up to him to refuse the assignment, but he was probably afraid to do so. I feel sorry for the preceptee.