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New grad RN vacation time negotiationRating: (votes: 0) In today's job market - you are going to come off as VERY demanding in my opinion. Your request could be seen as a deal-breaker. If you're truly new to the hospital environment, you're still looking at a new grad-type of orientation. You could still be in orientation at the time frame you're looking at.Good luck in the job search - and that trip will still be there in the future. Comment: Wait till you get an offer, then ask, stating you've had this planned for several months. However, if it interferes with orientation or with a nurse residency program, you may need to cancel or amend your plans. Employers recognize that people have lives outside of work, but 2 weeks for a new employee would be pushing it. Also, other employees may already be approved for those dates. If you buy the ticket now, make sure it's refundable.Comment: Thanks for the replies. I'm also wondering if it is a per diem position... are you supposed to just take whatever schedule the manager wants you to take or is it up to you?Comment: Per diem sometimes requires a commitment of X shifts per schedule, with other specific requirements, but is otherwise at mutually agreeable times. However, new grads are not usually hired per diemComment: You could either delay your job search until after the vacation, or ask the employer for time off once you're hired. Be prepared that your vacation dates may not work for the employer. You may find yourself cancelling the vacation.Comment: Okay. I guess I'll have to cancel the trip since I want to look for a serious position right now.... Thanks for the advice. I just don't want to regret not getting something I would really want because of the trip....I've just always wanted to go to Thailand and a friend of mine is going so I'm pretty upset about it. I wish someone would just give me an offer so I could know for sure what the right decision would be!Comment: You can look for work, and if nothing pans out by mid- December, go to Thailand. However, getting an offer should be the priority over going to Thailand, unless you don't need to work that soon.Comment: First, jobs are very hard to come by, especially in MA. I am working now with at least 4 recent (within last 2 yrs) grads from MA and 3 from NY, here in MD because of lack of jobs in MA. Second, if you get a new grad position, there is often a residency and/or orientation involved. You could find your vacation landing at a crucial point in it, and leaving for a nonemergent reason will be an issue.Third, as a general rule, new grads do not usually get per diem positions ( as they really need good, scheduled orientation) and if they do the first few months will be scheduled to allow for a balanced orientation.And as a general rule, there are no real salary negotiations involved for inexperienced nurses. Most facilities work with a set pay scale, though extensive experience/professional activities may allow it.Comment: Quote from misha22Okay. I guess I'll have to cancel the trip since I want to look for a serious position right now.... Thanks for the advice. I just don't want to regret not getting something I would really want because of the trip....I've just always wanted to go to Thailand and a friend of mine is going so I'm pretty upset about it. I wish someone would just give me an offer so I could know for sure what the right decision would be!Comment: Hi, There could be provisions for your vacation time off or might be your organization has some good time off software so as to comply with policy rules and for smoother functioning.Comment: Quote from MrChicagoRNPer diem sometimes requires a commitment of X shifts per schedule, with other specific requirements, but is otherwise at mutually agreeable times. However, new grads are not usually hired per diemComment: Just wanted to update if anyone was curious. I got a part time 24 hr position at a hospital and my orientation starts mid January!! Don't have any money left from the summer anyhow after paying the first couple months of student loans and for my gas, so I'm glad that I didn't book a trip, it wouldn't have been feasible at all money wise or time wise! So happy I will be able to start my career without worrying.
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