As a nurse how do you perceive that physicians feel toward you?

First of all, please forgive my naivety if I am totally off the mark here. I am beginning a nursing program in August, so I have no experience and not much knowledge on this issue.
So, I was googling some info for my research project (which is about the career of nursing) and came across a post on another forum.

WOW, was I shocked to read post after post belittling, degrading, insulting nurses, calling them whiners and even making sexist remarks such as, "they're women, they just need to be affirmed"
This was all in response to a comment made by President Obama back in 2009. This is a student doctor forum, so I am not sure if doctors who do graduate often feel this disrespect and disgust toward nurses.
Is there some sort of competition going on here? It seems like all of these student doctors possess a lot of bitterness and hatred toward nurses. Is this what is really going on in the professional health care setting? Again, please forgive me if this is totally distorted, but since I am going into the field, I would like to know what to expect.

Thanks in advance! Last edit by TheCommuter on Apr 28, '11 : Reason: unapproved link
For me, if a doc shows me disrespect I assure you, he/she does not get away with it, I always follow up with a discreet one on one smack down

About me, or about nurses? AFIK, I am well respected by all my colleagues. I do think most physicians think nurses are, in general, undereducated. I agree with them.

I mostly feel that doctors appreciate our input as we spend the most time with patients. They also know that I don't waste their time unless I have something important to say. I think people tend to treat you as you treat them, with exceptions of course. I treat docs respectfully but frankly when it comes to patient care and that's what I expect back.

I treat everyone the same. I don't care what others, including MDs, think of me. It's not so much high self-esteem as it is just having more important matters on my mind.

It was acceptable twenty years ago for a doctor to hang up on you, curse you, and yell at you. But it is not acceptable today. I wrote a doctor up in the hospital and he was reprimanded. Never let doctors push you around. My recommendation is to report it immediately to the charge nurse, the nursing supervisor, and your unit manager. Always put it in writing...leave a paper trail.

Ive worked with a few arrogant doctors and a few fantastic ones. It all depends on the individual. (as for the link in which many MDs were attacking the nurses based on the Presidents comments have personal problems, because despite why the President was praising nurses some of those comments by the MDs were uncalled for and downright mean. We are all part of a team and the MD should respect the nurse, what would they do without us? - but all MDs arent like this, because there are good and bad people there will be good and bad doctors, nurses, police officers, teachers, counselors, ministers, etc.....

Quote from jaimeandjulesFirst of all, please forgive my naivety if I am totally off the mark here. I am beginning a nursing program in August, so I have no experience and not much knowledge on this issue.So, I was googling some info for my research project (which is about the career of nursing) and came across this post on a forum:forums.studentdoctor.net/archive/index.php/t-613963.htmlWOW, was I shocked to read post after post belittling, degrading, insulting nurses, calling them whiners and even making sexist remarks such as, "they're women, they just need to be affirmed"This was all in response to a comment made by President Obama back in 2009. This is a student doctor forum, so I am not sure if doctors who do graduate often feel this disrespect and disgust toward nurses.Is there some sort of competition going on here? It seems like all of these student doctors possess a lot of bitterness and hatred toward nurses. Is this what is really going on in the professional health care setting? Again, please forgive me if this is totally distorted, but since I am going into the field, I would like to know what to expect.Thanks in advance!

Remember something -- all of these bitter arrogant folks in that chat room were brave men sitting behind a computer protected by the anonimity of a screen name and probably were pale white, shriveled with fear, and saying something like the following - "You think this order is wrong ? Ok, I will check with my resident, Mame and get right back to you" On the days when in they are in on the floors and a RN challenges their order.Marc

Quote from platon20I dont think its fair to judge all doctors based on that one thread.I will say that Obama picked a poor example to highlight the importance of nurses. He basically said that the doctors were irrelevant and only the nurses provided anything useful which is total crap. A kid w/ bacterial meningitis who receives the best nursing care in the world will die without a doctor's intervention. My point is you need both doctors and nurses. I think Obama was simply catering to his audience. If it were a group of doctors there, he would have gone on and on about how the doctor did the LP, diagnosed meningitis, and saved his daughter's life. My point is that he's a typical sellout politician who will say whatever he thinks makes the audience happy.

I believe that website in particular is known for being populated by a few too many arrogant asshats.

Quote from jaimeandjulesWOW, was I shocked to read post after post belittling, degrading, insulting nurses, calling them whiners and even making sexist remarks such as, "they're women, they just need to be affirmed"

just like an has threads lamenting some docs and med students, this website does the same to our nursing profession. same as nursing students have rants, so do docs in training. long ago both websites decided to not permit cross postings to keep our mod team bp's within control so links deactivated.after med students graduate , get into their internship, residency and fellowship years they learn to appreciate the value of great nursing care and how our eyes and ears can prevent adverse patient event..and we work well together overall. family physicians especially appreciate homecare rns often writing "wound care per rn's recommendation."joint commission has heard nurses pleas re occasional physician arrogance -- expectation that we all play together nicely in the healthcare sandbox as part of patient safety.jcaho: "behaviors that undermine a culture of safety" (316159effective 1/1/2009, hospitals will have to have a code of conduct which, "defines acceptable and disruptive and inappropriate behaviors."