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Having to tell people there is no nursing shortageRating: (votes: 0) Then I have to explain that 1) we're still in recession and more people are not paying their medical bills and not getting elective surgeries. 2) hospitals laid off a bunch of nurses 3) those nurses that were still there took on more hours 4) nursing schools used a vulnerable time for the masses to lure people into nursing school creating high supply and low demand 5) healthcare is up in the air right now putting healthcare budgets on a balance beam that hopefully will see improvement 6) I have to have someone who can get me a really good in and be able to schmooze nowadays to get a good nursing job as a new grad 7) there is no nursing shortage right now in most areas. And they still don't get it. I feel embarrased for myself having to explain because clearly i should have a job by now if i had a good head on my shoulders and applied. Whatever. It's funny, in my graduate program we have been discussing the "nursing shortages" and the history of nursing in the United States. The use of "shortages" was first conceived as a management tool in the 40's, when the shortage was legitimate. From then on about every decade or two a new "shortage" appears.An economist would say that these shortages are a normal and healthy response to changes in the marketplace and if left alone a balance will quickly be struck between the production of supply and the level of demand as the price (salaries & benefits) are adjusted.An administrator would see a "shortage" as an opportunity to scare the public in order to justify short-staffing and the utilization of short-trained nurses. This is in fact where LPNs, Dilpoma RNs, and ADN RNs have come into the market (more so on the latter two). See, with a shortage you cannot justify paying the same nurse less but you can justify working them harder, if you cannot pay the same nurse less you can recruit short-trained nurses and pay them less. Comment:
Quote from Asystole RNAn administrator would see a "shortage" as an opportunity to scare the public in order to justify short-staffing and the utilization of short-trained nurses. This is in fact where LPNs, Dilpoma RNs, and ADN RNs have come into the market (more so on the latter two).
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Shortages exist in some areas of nursing - but what employers want is experience. For instance, we are expanding our surgery area. We have a "shortage" of experienced surgery nurses in our area. It is not safe to hire too many new people. I agree that the schools are over-anticipating the baby boomers retirement. A lot of us prefer to work.
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Quote from classicdameI agree that the schools are over-anticipating the baby boomers retirement. A lot of us prefer to work.
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As always, I encourage folks to look to the places that do struggle to retain staff: Specifically, rural hospitals a couple hundred miles from the big-city ones. They have typically have trouble recruiting and retaining experienced staff because they generally pay very poorly by comparison, are often in places considered less desirable by some, and generally have limited equipment, facilities, and patient types.That said, they're much easier to get into and can open the door a few years out.Your primary point regarding the misperception of a nursing shortage is well taken. It appears that there is an ever-growing surplus of new nurses flooding the market and competing for very limited job opportunities.
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Quote from Asystole RNAn administrator would see a "shortage" as an opportunity to scare the public in order to justify short-staffing and the utilization of short-trained nurses. This is in fact where LPNs, Dilpoma RNs, and ADN RNs have come into the market (more so on the latter two). See, with a shortage you cannot justify paying the same nurse less but you can justify working them harder, if you cannot pay the same nurse less you can recruit short-trained nurses and pay them less.
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The only shortage that exist is, nurses that are truly willing to put up with the crap that employers give.
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Quote from FlyingScotOh come on! Are you saying that diploma nurses were invented in the 1940's as a management tool?!!!! I bet that comes as a surprise to all the schools that have been around since the turn of the century.
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Quote from FlyingScotI also take umbrage with your description of these nurses as "short-trained". My diploma program was 3 years long. My nursing classes started at the beginning of the second semester of the first year. Since, at the very least, I had nursing classes for one extra semester than BSN programs I guess that would make me MORE trained.
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I've found that explaining the reality of the nursing job market usually is met with perplexed looks from the person I'm talking to and possibily some vaguely veiled comment. I now actively refrain from getting into any such conversations. The audience does not care if I have a job or why I don't have one if I don't.
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But you use it in the context that diploma programs were created with the purpose of relieving a nursing shortage by giving them less training (which implies that they are inferior) when in fact diploma schools were the first organized nursing education. And you have to admit, regardless of who coined the term, it is a bit inflammatory.
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Quote from FlyingScotBut you use it in the context that diploma programs were created with the purpose of relieving a nursing shortage by giving them less training (which implies that they are inferior) when in fact diploma schools were the first organized nursing education. And you have to admit, regardless of who coined the term, it is a bit inflammatory.
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